Both shoot about the same as far as low recoil. However, it is pricey and a bit bulkier than some of the others. Thats a lot! Oh not to mention Sccy has great Their guns get copied because George Kelgren never copyrighted the designs. Thats a problem for a pocket gun. Remember, these are life-or-death guns, not gopher guns or race guns. He talks about having to yank the Mag. Did he shoot various ammo or run them for accuracy. I was also surprised to find the CM40 rated so poorly. The very concealable gun has a barrel length of only 2.5 inches. Stainless steel through out the gun. Recently we exchanged and shot each others weapon, I have a Taurus LCP 380. In contrast to this, the original LCP did not lock back on the final round. And buying likes is one definite way to abuse it. It is considerably lighter and smoother than the original LCP and other comparable .380 pistols, and it also features the Glock-style bladed safety that must first be depressed in order for the trigger to be pulled. Small, accurate and reliable. the problem with your rating site is that it is seriously flawed. Think he went through that with customer service Ill give ya the mag though. I liked the gun otherwise, but the awful trigger was a total deal breaker for me. The reason the trigger pull is lighter is because it is a SA trigger versus the DA trigger on the original LCP. Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. These arent Rambo guns, they are self defense guns. I have a KAHR CM40 and a CW40 and for their intended purpose they are great. They pretty much invented the theory of if you get a good one its good, but when you get a bad one its bad. On the plus side, the SCCY has a lighter trigger than the Kel-Tec P11 (which may explain the problem), but the P11 always goes bang. The slide has the most ineffective grooves Ive ever felt. And with 38 other semi-auto pocketguns to choose from, why risk it? Their customer service is great and my pistol has run 100% since I bought it with multiples of hundreds of rounds through it. The Beretta APX has a 4.4 rating from 22 votes It sucks so hard that its suckage transcends space and time. All guns I would have avoided anyway, except the Pico. The .380 ACP is not a powerhouse, but its often enough. My other gun is a Beretta PX4. BATTLE OF THE RUGER .380S: LCP VS. LCP II. It is accurate, easy to shoot, recoil is manageable. Thanks for your post. Voted by handgun magazine as a top pistol and great manufacturer. Sure just You should consider using a Bayesian average for this situation. But do not tell me the Kahr is a better gun. Got over 1000 rounds through it, and no problems. One of the most MILD mannered pistols you can shoot in 380.They are Ultra reliable with all kinds of ammo. I own and have tested both the CPX1 (manual safety) and CPX2 (no manual safety). If you are going to run a wisdom of crowds review site I think you really ought to take a note from them, because we ALL know the crowd can also be incredibly stupid, especially when hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard. I dont see it. They know media though. My Kahr is a nice but, but Finicky as heck. On that note, you KNOW were kind of spoiled with all the great pocket guns available today. The sccy is very similar. I just went through your site and clicked a one star on every gun over $500 and a 10 star on every gun under $500 with my only basis being I dont currently have an expendable $500 in my pocket and I dont like them because they are out of my budget Just kidding, I didnt, but anyone out there could do it, which is why I think your system is incredibly flawed by not at least holding reviewers to having to list a reason. I think you would be hard pressed to find any thing this good for that price. My SCCY CPX-2 has been absolutely accurate with never a malfunction of any kind. The Pico is top notch. . The DAO trigger is long but is consistent and smooth. Web.380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Votes on the best or worst of anything are all based on personal experience or having an ax to grind. All of these features together, the improved trigger, the enhanced serrations, the stippling on the grip, and the slightly wider grip size all combine to make the LCP II a better handgun to shoot than the original LCP. Bounce is not horrible but that along with size will take some of the enjoyment out of the session. How so? Cant say LCP is much better than any of these above, but it has been reliable. Both the front and rear sights are black which can make it difficult to see them if you are aiming against a dark background. Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. Pointing a gun will not stop a thug. It feels good in the hand and the materials and workmanship are fine. I carry it about as often as I carry a Glock 19 mainly based upon clothing/belt shortcomings in dress scenarios. Got the Hellcat thrown in when I bought another gun. Because they just have a vendetta against these manufacturers? Ruger LCP Max 2. Oh shit! Modular design, one of the easiest take downs in the history of guns, fantastic sights, easy to put on night sights without going to a Gun Smith. I have literally spoken to no one that has said anything positive about the Pico. I must be the unicorn master then, because I own each of the firearms listed, except the Hellcat, (I have never heard of it before this article) and have never had an issue with any of them. As a long, and I do mean long time P3AT owner, you must be one of those anti Keltec trolls that hated them from the start. And I have not shot one better then these in the same weight and AOL class. But thats just me Not everyone places as much weight on user ratings as I do. Are you kidding me? They never protected their early designs/. I totally agree. My son made sure I carried a SW9VE for daily use. And BTW, the gunsgunsguns link doesnt work. Lol, a very nice DAO, the new Gen is much lighter. To start with they sat on it for 2 whole years teasing a release and it just kept getting pushed back further and further. And I dont know why Keltec lets Ruger & SCCY(and the defunct hellcat) slavishly copy their designs. Its fun to shoot really, PS: visited the site again, feeling slightly guilty for harping on the polling validity-. The problem with the group wisdom line of thinking is that you cannot separate the people with actual hands on experience with the firearm in question from actual users, which is always a problem with new guns. Actually if the SCCY is on here then the Mill Pro G2 should be also, and that gun is a trainwreck compared to the SCCY. And I didnt enjoy shooting my G27 until I got the extended base plates with additional capacity. I have been shooting pocket guns for years. I have a brand new Cobra that has never fired a shot ! . Funny. That gun, the TCP, gets pretty good marks everywhere Ive seen it reviewed, so I wouldnt expect it to show up on a pocket guns to avoid list. The small NAA revolvers make a good back up weapon, I own three of the little guns. The PPK established a defining influence on the design of concealed carry firearms. What really won me over was the quality and operation, even on the bargain CM. When he says the People have spoken who the heck is that? Probably ran 150 round through it so far. But unlike those highly rated guns, the Hellcat IIs rating is in the toilet. I own a SCCY CPX-2 personally and it has been a flawless gun. Ive heard more than a handful of DEALERS who rate it a much better overall weapon than the KelTec which it resembles, and the machining does appear superior in my estimation. You got to be a rookie. The CM40 being smaller and lighter might exhibit a little more, but its not unmanageable. WebThe Roughneck series of derringers are similar in appearance to the well-known Bond Arms Backup models, but are more affordable. I have SCCY CPX2 Best gun ever Just keep it clean 400 rounds down range 400 rounds on target Ill bet my life on my cpx2. Try posting a survey asking for votes on Glocks, for instance, and you will get a very polarized response . I know I hated my PF9 and would NEVER EVER buy any Keltec pistol again. Her gun was unloaded while the thugs were not. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. I posted a new post today regarding the nonsense by this author about the Pico. Built like a tank. With pocket pistols you get so much more in terms of everything for every little uptick in size you go. Have you ever even shot one? I just dont see the silent u in that. Who knew a firearm could actually be worse? Im about to order some more. Im in the habit of buying less costly weapons and fully expect to tinker a bit with them to produce a smooth running hot brass pile maker. When you insert a fresh magazine, it will be easier to rack the slide this way as well. I experienced none of that with my p3at but it was entertaining to read. You did NOT mention that the Pico has RE-STRIKE CAPAPIBILITY. WebSmith & Wesson Model 500 is a five-shot, single action/double-action large caliber revolver produced by Smith & Wesson, firing the .500 S&W Magnum cartridge, a .50 caliber bullet. The SCCY model CPX-2 is a fine lightweight pistol that shoots a stopper round 9mm. Zero malfunctions in 300 rounds including pocket lint coverings. You can buy 1911s now. Sorry, but NOT my Kahr. Its definitely not perfect but it is far from the worst gun Ive owned. But the reset on the trigger was so ridiculously long Id often miss follow up shots because I handt let it out far enough to reset. SIG P238 Why Use a .380 Pistol? Though my CW380 was also unreliable and pinched my finger after firing. I also have the Kahr. Anonymous reviews should be taken VERY suspiciouslyof all product, not just guns. It just goes into endless redirects until your browser gives up on it. Its teeny, accurate, and easy to handle. . Fed, fired and ejected all the ammo I put in it. I dont care for the finger grooves, the chunky feel, or the bullets rattling in the magazine when they arent stacked just right. Sleek design, totally snag proof. Mild. Thats whats currently on my hip and I love it. I like its feel in my hand. Um the SCCY is a near exact copy of the nearby(Cocoa,Fl) Keltec P-11. The warranty cant be beat. Simple, easy and the Beretta Pico is in fact one of the most mild shooting Pocket Pistols out there. Yea, guns like Diamondback, Jiminez, Lorcen, High Point and so forth have always had poor reputations, but guns like SCCY and the now Springfield Armory XD were initially poo pooed but turn out to be good guns Its not Remington R51 bad, but its a pretty lousy firearm. More power to him I say. These are not military combat weapons. How many times does anyone complain about a bad trigger in a self defense situation? Cobra lasted 10 minutes in my house. The CPX-3 and CPX-4 is now available in 380 with less recoil. And probably never fired one. I bought a SCCY CPX-2 a few months ago . Stainless STEEL barrel, CHASSIS, best sights made on a pocket gun, Magazines that look like Custume 1911, all stainless steel with even a Steel follower. Designed to be smaller and more compact than the Nambu 14 for use by armored vehicle crewmen and pilots, the pistol had design More than ever, the PPK is a statement of sophistication. you have to wear shorts with a tucked in shirt), the LCP II will be a great option. 6. For this purpose, I actually switched to an NAA pug. With a much lighter trigger, enhanced slide serrations, wider grip, impressive stippling job, and the ability to slide lock on the last round, the LCP II is a definitive improvement over other comparable .380 pocket guns. Im thinking about getting a second one to keep in my truck or with my bow hunting gear. Forget about dropping the mag with the shooting hand, cause it aint happening. The Pico will eat any ammo I have fed it, and has proven flawless with thousands of rounds down range. We indicate sponsored content as such. It is almost a virtual impossibility to drop the mag without having to literally stop everything your doing and have to yank the thing down using 2 hands. Still cant find that silent u in it to make it sky. BTW except for the cobra all these little guns got good reviews at various timesFWIW. The trigger is fantastic, and reassuring in handling and holstering (leather IWB) in ways that Glock is not. It is my favorite except the 15 ounce weight makes it have more recoil than a typical 9mm. The double 1911 also has ratings. Ruger LCP II 3. My old PPK/s doesnt like Blazer alum. The Pico is one of the best firearms in its class out there period. Stainless Steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, built like a tank. SCCY Industries CPX-2 (4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes) This gun is budget-friendly I like mine. Also cobra has a lifetime warranty on their guns if you do the warranty. My hands are simply too large for the tiny Ruger. My PT 22 is surprisingly reliable. He says the trigger is horrible? 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